liability without fault–reasons
he caused it
somebody has to pay the doctor’s bill
makes sense to have the one who did something than the person who didn’t do anything
counter argument: fault system already has deterrence build in
if there is a fault system there is less chance of paying
easier rule: you hurt someone, you pay
expensive to sue–in favor of no fault
Who pays when person is hit with the stick?
better for society if insurance pays
spread cost over lots of people–the masses can handle a small inc. in bills.
Why shouldn’t there be liability?
easier to bring lawsuits—more lawsuits
more demands on legal system
no one would take risks
anytime you win, you do make it easier for others to win (good and bad thing )
ex. tobacco comp. concealed info
focus on nuances
Vonsburg v. Putney
Remanded for new trial b/c the testimony of the doctor was hypothetical
The plaintiff had originally been awarded $25000.
Plaintiff: a little over 14
Defendant: a little under12
Defendant kicked the plaintiff under the knee, while in the school room, after lessons had started.
Plaintiff knee had been injured the month before. It was nearly healed at point of injury.
Plaintiff must show either that the intention was unlawful or that the defendant is at fault.
If they had been in the playground, plaintiff may not have been liable. Certain expectation that those things happen on the playground.
Happened in the classroom. Action was unlawful.
Was the knee already diseased?
Doctor was required to give an opinion on a hypothesis, but he couldn’t have given an intelligent opinion as to which wound on the plaintiff’s leg caused the injury.
This influenced the jury and shouldn’t have been used.
Can only such damages be recovered as the defendant might reasonably be supposed to have contemplated as likely to result from his kicking the plaintiff?
The wrongdoer is liable for all injuries resulting in the wrongful act, whether they could or not have been foreseen by him.
Conclusion: Cause remanded for a new trial.
Vonsburg v. Putney
written by west company employees
read opinion, wrote down paraphrased summary of what opinion said
(no upside in reading a head note)
number categorizes where opinion belongs
Lyon: judge who wrote opinion
Defendant attorney: no intention to commit assault
What lawyers argued:
attorney defense–could be assumed that among boys it was an unavoidable accident, should not be a recovery, must appear that injury was consequence of wrongful act, should have been foreseen, no evil intent
plaintiff–where an infant commits a wrong, damages resulting to another ought to be recompensed. party who commits a trespass is liable, def. knowingly and consciously kicked plaintiff.
Totally different approaches to the law (have to make two attorneys address other’s argument)
defendant won (appellant won)
b/c the testimony from the doctor
suff. important question and answer–might have changed jury’s opinion if q. had been properly phrased
Does plaintiff has cause of action if def. intended to cause no harm?
answer to this question: (last sent. of first p.) – action sustained
they mean: action is affirmed
Why does court come down for plaintiff on this issue?
unlawful act, therefore intention is unlawful
court could say, don’t apply Vonsburg to a case where someone had no intention to make contact (his daughter running down hall and accidently kicking someone)
Is there liability under court standard if you are on playground?
Well, you can still be liable on a playground. Girl studying. Someone kicks her.
soccer. penalty committed. not a battery b/c even penalties are allowed in soccer.
Why pay the $5000?
plaintiff shouldn’t have to pay–he was just sitting there
If rule of expected harm, most cases you’d have recovery of $0. Won’t award $$ to someone who isn’t harmed.
Why wasn’t he wearing
Assault and battery
If men tilt or turney in presence of king or if two masters of defense kill each other–no felony
Brown v. Kendall
If a man takes my hand and strikes you (or the plaintiff ran cross his piece when it was discharging)– no negligence to give occasion to hurt.
Case: Garratt v. Dailey
Case originally dismissed. Remanded for clarification.
A five-year-old was visiting with an adult in her back yard.
Her sister, an adult, came out to join them.
The boy pulled the chair away, and she feel to the ground and fractured her hip.
Only the sister testified, so the court went with the boy’s testimony. That he pulled the chair away, and tried to put it back when he realized she was trying to sit.
How do you prosecute a minor for a tort?
The same way you would anyone else.
Was Brian a trespasser?
No. He was a visitor. Allowed to touch property.
BATTERY: intentional infliction of a harmful bodily contact upon another.
intention of bringing harm or an apprehension thereof
the contact is not consented
the contact is not otherwise privileged
Was there intent? (no consent or privilege)
If plaintiff proved that Brian pulled the chair out while she was sitting, there would be intent
Was plaintiff able to cross-examine?
Yes, except regarding whether he had his chair pulled out from under him in Kindergarten.
Plaintiff tried to ask q’s about conversations he’d had at his home.
But all of this got on the record anyway–point proved.
A deposition should have been allowed, even if under supervision of court.